Thank the Baby Jeebus for NPR. I was afraid I was going to have trouble finding stuff to write about. Turns out torture is still causing a pretty big fuss. The wonks are once again debating what is and isn’t torture. The idea on the Left seemingly, is that anything less than a brand new plush teddy bear with big brown eyes is too harsh. Which might be an exaggeration, but only by a little.
What was really interesting about the latest piece about torture on NPR is that it discusses what was up until now apparently, relatively unknown by the both the general public and apparently a lot of people “in the know.” To wit, the armed forces have for years and years, put our own people through some of the same procedures that are now being described as torture. Waterboarding, stress positions, slaps to the face, that sort of thing.
Go ahead, reread that last part.
The government folks use this as proof that the techniques they used on guys like Khalid Shiek Mohammed are not torture. The other team is arguing that the two situations are completely dissimilar because in the case of our guys, they are able to pull a Roberto Duran and say “no mas,” while the bad guys most likely don’t have the option to call time out. This sense of helplessness the bad guys who can’t say “no” experience as a result of not being able to say “no”, can subsequently lead to the kind of long term psychological damage that would qualify those techniques as torture.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Logic Train has jumped the rails and is plummeting down the canyon towards the river.
Issue 1: Look, the bad guys do have the option of calling time out. Tell the guys asking the questions, the answers to the questions they’re asking. I’ll concede that it is quite likely that a large number of people have had these techniques applied to them in what might not be ideal circumstances were innocent, couldn’t tell anybody anything useful, and were put under duress for no justifiable, or forgivable, reason. But like the death penalty, it doesn’t mean you quit using it, you just get more selective.
Issue 2: Opponents of these techniques have started arguing that it isn’t the techniques per se, rather the combination of the techniques and the circumstances of being forced against one’s will to endure them, that constitute torture.
“In fact, dozens of studies have shown that when people are exposed to trauma and perceive that they have no control over events, they are at increased risk for prolonged psychological harm, such as post-traumatic stress disorder and depression”.
Which brings us back to the teddy bear I mentioned earlier.
It’s tough to argue that the techniques we use to teach our armed forces how to resist torture, are now being called torture when we use them to interrogate people, particularly when, for the most part, are pretty dead set on making us dead.
Obviously the stuff at Abu Ghraib was unacceptable and completely out of line. Speaking purely from a PR standpoint, it made a strong association between us and Saddam, it completely took domestic attention off message, and it gave the people who we say we aren’t oppressing, a pretty good reason to think we might be a little oppressive.
From an ethical and moral standpoint, it sucks because, while we are certainly not on the level of the kinds of people who chop off heads for kicks, and recruit retarded women to become suicide bombers, it takes us closer.